<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Bonjour a tous, <br><br>Cela fait un moment que je suis tapi sans rien "dire" sur cette liste ("lurking"). <br><br>Mais ici il me semble qu'il y a une truc crucial en train de se passer, et tout le mode peut agir pour faire pression sur l'assoc suisse de normalisation, pour au moins tenter
de savoir quelles personnes seront envoyées représenter la Suisse au Ballot Resolution Meeting à Genève en février. Si il y a 3 M$ certified gold and platimum partner (c) (R), cela fera une voix de plus pour cette chose
scandaleuse qu'ils osent appeler une proposition de norme (DIS29500): 6000 pages alors que la ISO26300 (open doc format) en fait 600... S'ils recoivent bcp de téléphones (voir no ci-dessous) et d'e-mails (les 2 courtois bien sûr)
cela les mettra peut-être sous pression...<br><br>Le comité suisse est orienté ClosedXML - pardon OpenXML mais on est en pleine novlangue ici - la Suisse est parmi les pays qui ont voté "accept with comment" sous la pression du consultant qui lui sert de directeur et le noyautage visible du groupe par M$. Peut-être que certains d'entre vous ont des infos de 1ere main sur ces délibérations? <br>La SNV se montre extrêmement discrête sur ces délibérations, il n'y que 2 petites pages lorsqu''on recherche 29500 sur le site; vous y trouverez juste les e-mails des reponsables du comité, mais pas les noms des membres du comité, alors que la transparence est chose courante dans des organismes comme l'IEC (commission électrotechnique internationale) ou l'IEEE. <br><br>Alors voila, vous pouvez signer aussi la pétition: <br><br><span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://www.noooxml.org/petition">http://www.noooxml.org/petition</a></span><br><br>A nous de
jouer pour que M$ ne "hijacke" pas nos informations - et qu'on puisse relire et modifer nos docs dans 10 ans. <br><br>A+<br><br>Dominique Bovey<br>Ing. dipl. El. EPFL<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Message transféré ----<br>De : Benjamin Henrion <bhenrion@ffii.org><br>À : dominiquebovey@yahoo.com<br>Envoyé le : Jeudi, 6 Décembre 2007, 20h31mn 13s<br>Objet : <NO>OOXML: Your action is required: Contact SNV now!<br><br><br>Dear Dominique Bovey,<br><br>You signed the <NO>OOXML petition, a movement backed now by more than<br>70.000 supporters worldwide. Our effort to influence the OOXML (Office<br>Open XML) standardization process has been an astonishing success so<br>far. We aim for at least 100.000 signatures in February when the Geneva<br>Ballot Resolution Meeting (BRM) will convene with the aim to resolve<br>comments.<br><br>Microsoft is trying by all means to get
its "standard" adopted without<br>substantial changes despite of its thousands of officially reported<br>technical flaws and the pre-existence of ISO 26300:2006 (OpenDocument,<br>ODF) as the most appropriate international standard for the<br>representation of office documents.<br><br>By next Tuesday Dec 11 2007 delegates from your National Standards Body<br>SNV who will participate in the BRM have to be announced to<br>ISO. At least Portugal and Ireland will be represented by Microsoft. In<br>many other countries, we know that Microsoft gold partners are
proposing<br>themselves as heads of national delegations. Many of them will prevail<br>if we do not take action.<br><br>Will you let Microsoft represent your country at Geneva and decide the<br>future of OOXML?<br><br>You can make a difference and call now SNV at +41-522245454 and help<br>us to find out:<br><br> a. Who will represent SNV on DIS 29500 at the Ballot<br> Resolution Meeting in Geneva?<br> b. When will the decision on delegates be made and if SNV is<br> aware of the Dec 11 deadline?<br> c. Does your national delegates for the BRM are independent enough<br> from Microsoft?<br> d. Does the responsible Committee of SNV for DIS 29500 work<br> on resolution proposals for all the 3500 comments tabled or - if
at<br> all - only for the national comments that they submitted?<br><br>Please report your findings by replying to this email, we will update<br>this page with the members of each national delegation:<br><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.noooxml.org/brm">http://www.noooxml.org/brm</a><br><br>More things that you can do to help our effort against this broken<br>standard proposal:<br><br> 1. Join our mailing list and get in touch with many other<br> activists:<br> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lists.ffii.org/mailman/listinfo/noooxml-club">http://lists.ffii.org/mailman/listinfo/noooxml-club</a><br> 2. Become a member of FFII, the worldwide association leading the<br> <NO>OOXML campaign:<br> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://action.ffii.org/member_application">http://action.ffii.org/member_application</a><br> 3.
Become a member of DIGISTAN, the organization
for the promotion<br> of true digital open standards worldwide; please indicate your<br> interests to: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:members@digistan.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:members@digistan.org">members@digistan.org</a><br> 4. Blog about OOXML which shapes the public debate; blogging has been<br> instrumental to our success in Sweden for example;<br> 5. support our campaign work with financial means:<br> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.noooxml.org/donations">http://www.noooxml.org/donations</a><br><br>Best regards,<br><br>--<br>Benjamin Henrion <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bhenrion@ffii.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:bhenrion@ffii.org">bhenrion@ffii.org</a>><br><NO>OOXML Campaign leader<br></div><br></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br></div></div></body></html>