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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/28/25 09:12, Samuel Chenal via
gull wrote:<br>
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Il semble qu'on ne peut plus ou on ne va plus pouvoir utiliser
SMTP AUTH de base via MS et qu'il va falloir passer par OAuth2.
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<p>Je confirme avoir vu passé une info au sujet de la désactivation
de SMTP AUTH pour des raisons de manque de sécurité. Il semblerait
que pas mal de serveur de mail ont décidé de cesser d'utiliser
SMTP AUTH et de passer à OAuth2 (MS & gmail entre autre). Il
semblerait donc que cela n'affecte que ceux qui utilisent un
serveur de mail externe comme relay.<br>
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cite="mid:fef8a8cf-eb33-4b04-811d-ca9ced9caa34@ll-dd.ch">Quelqu'un
a-t-il une expérience dans la configuration d'exim4 dans ce
contexte ?
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<p>En effet, pas grand chose sur le net concernant exim4</p>
<p>Pour info :</p>
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biggest problem with all of this is that I’ve got no available
SMTP server to use, and I suspect that’s the case for many others
as well. As I’m sure most of you know by now, Google requires<span> </span><code
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to use gmail now, which I very much doubt is available for exim4.
Google requires the developers of the software to enter some
agreement with them, which reportedly costs quite a lot of money,
to receive “Google approved†OAuth2 tokens (or something like
that). The end result is that, for all intents and purposes, gmail
no longer work for applications not “approved†by Google. Using so
called “app passwords†isn’t available unless you enable two
factor authentication, which leaves you at risk of being “locked
out†of your account the next time you lose your phone, it’s
stolen, it breaks etc, which makes this an obvious no-go.</p>
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know that it’s possible to rent SMTP server access from other
providers, but is it really necessary to make this a requirement
for backing up openhabian? I also think the documentation should
describe this whole situation, it seems like more and more
providers come up with ridiculous schemes like OAuth2 to prevent
people from using “alternative software†for handling e-mail.</p>
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commence à devenir compliqué !</p>
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